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Commissions and Trailers Transparency Dec.29

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12:00 pm
December 29, 2011


Gerwing

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All this talk about disclosure and transparency on what the advisor earns…

Let's go all the way and disclose how much the Fund Managers make

AND what is their short and long term performance record.

Put it ALL on every statement!

I have been in the business for over 30 years and have always disclosed

how I will get paid.

Everyone knows advisors work on comission. (Unless Fee based)

 

So…Disclose all, don't just pick on the hard working advisor

that keeps the Companies going.

Or, leave well enough alone. (Perhaps a signed disclosure on how we get paid)

 

Reboot50

9:23 am
December 30, 2011


smelly

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And make sure you frame the discussion properly by talking about the added value you bring to the relationship. Remind them about the tax savings they've enjoyed from your advice about exploiting income splitting and tax deferal strategies, the estate planning advice you gave them by reviewing their Wills, the insurance needs analysis you did that saved them premium dollars or ensured they had proper coverage, interest savings on debt, etc., etc., etc.

If they have a past ocurance of you coaching them to stay the course when they wanted to bail out of their investments, needed help with selecting company benefits, a buyout or pension transfer, put a number to that too. 

Tell them how much a lawyer or accountant would have charged them per hour for the advice and how you provided the help as part of your service to them. While you're at it, let them know if they have less than $500K those "holier-than-you" fee based/only advisors won't take them on as clients because they're not profitable enough.

9:43 am
April 23, 2012


jim.mason.14

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And lest we forget that if not for an advisor to use as a sounding board most investors would try to market time and lose their shirts.  Sometimes I think the most value I add is just convincing my clients to stay fully invested during downturns and rebalance when the markets recover. 

If disclosure is really going to be transparent then let's also disclose how much the dealer makes off of a fund sale and what THEY provide for their cut.  Truth is they provide very little other than to act as a conduit yet they take half the trailer .

9:14 am
April 27, 2012


smelly

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Jim, if you're losing 50% to the dealer you're either a small producer or working through a bank in which case you're getting a lot of your overhead paid for. Your options are to get bigger and / or dump the bank. Dealers do provide an important function. If you don't think so, see what it would cost you to provide all the back office processes on your own. That plus compliance… I don't think it's even posible anymore to go it alone. And if you look at an independant dealer's financials, you'd se that whatever their take of the grid is, the profit margin is pretty slim.